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votes for the president and the next president of the united states, barack obama. >> in a surprise appearance, president obama joined clinton on stage. the president speaks tonight. vice president biden did a late night walk through while breakdown continues at bank of america stadium. his speech and all today's events moved inside amid the threat of severe weather dampening the democrats' final day. we're still waiting to see what changes may happen here as a result of all of that, trying to now accommodate as many as they possibly can. thousands more people than this arena can hold. lynn? >> thank you. >>> last night on msnbc's special convention coverage, the keynote speaker, the mayor of san antonio, texas, addressed republican charges that the president hasn't done enough to fix the economy, particularly l job creation. >> when you look at where this nation was whether barack obama took office losing 800,000 jobs, n. january of 2009 and he went to work right away so that now you have 29 straight months of private sector job growth, 4.5 million new jobs created, you can tell th
votes for the president and the next president of the united states, barack obama. >> in a surprise appearance, president obama joined clinton on stage. the president speaks tonight. vice president biden did a late night walk through while breakdown continues at bank of america stadium. his speech and all today's events moved inside amid the threat of severe weather dampening the democrats' final day. we're still waiting to see what changes may happen here as a result of all of that,...
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. >> instead when our grounds are attacked and being breached, the first response of the ute v united states must be outrage. >> the administration sent mixed signals to those who attacked our embassy in egypt and mixed signals to the world. >> reporter: the world waits to see who will be held responsible for the death of a diplomat. >> reporter: even some republicans criticized romney for jumping in while events were still unfolding. mara. >> right now there are reports of protestsers storming the u.s. embassy in the yemeni capital. once inside the compound, the mob brought down the u.s. flag and burned it. witnesses say security forces have opened fire on the crowd. >>> well, when it comes to what many see as mitt romney's missteps in the aftermath of the attack, last night on "politics nation," they spoke about what romney needs to do in response. >> before you make statements, get your facts straight. at night with the crush of other events going and i'm sure people running in and out telling this is happening, that's happening, let's get a statement out, they did it wrong. they d
. >> instead when our grounds are attacked and being breached, the first response of the ute v united states must be outrage. >> the administration sent mixed signals to those who attacked our embassy in egypt and mixed signals to the world. >> reporter: the world waits to see who will be held responsible for the death of a diplomat. >> reporter: even some republicans criticized romney for jumping in while events were still unfolding. mara. >> right now there are...
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the infamous birth question, was the president born in the united states. under our constitution he has to be born here to be president. ohio republican primary voters, 37% they do not think barack obama was born here. just 2 in 5 say the president was american born and, therefore, a legitimate president. when you ask the president's religion, this gets scary. a majority of all voters don't take him at his word. just 49%. this is all voters, say he's a christian, which is what he says he is. and 30% of republicans and 34% of conservative republicans say obama is a muslim. simple as that. here is the point. these bad numbers, saying twice wrong, these 34%, twice what they were four years ago. when he came in people took him at face value. i'm american born, obviously. i got a whole history, it was announced when i was born in honolulu, in all the papers there, and i am what i am, a christian. i go to this church that caused him a lot of trouble. do we remember that? he went to a church, jeremiah wright's church that got him in all the trouble. why did we cha
the infamous birth question, was the president born in the united states. under our constitution he has to be born here to be president. ohio republican primary voters, 37% they do not think barack obama was born here. just 2 in 5 say the president was american born and, therefore, a legitimate president. when you ask the president's religion, this gets scary. a majority of all voters don't take him at his word. just 49%. this is all voters, say he's a christian, which is what he says he is....
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states and our supposed partners in afghanist afghanistan. what does the breakdown in that relationship mean for the future in the
states and our supposed partners in afghanist afghanistan. what does the breakdown in that relationship mean for the future in the
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it's a fair question, what do you want to do in the world, what's your united states role. besides this time going to be tougher and all this bs basically. this guy has had no military experience in his family, he just keeps talking about how tough he's going to be. >> the scary thing about this campaign is that we don't have any idea what he wants to do or which policies he's going to support. we saw the stock market go up 200 points today. romney is allegedly running on the economy. well, for most people, the economy isn't the unemployment figures. the economy is two things, your house value, and your 401(k). housing values are going back up, and the market is almost back to where it was almost four years ago, so the one thing that he has, he doesn't really have. >> and consumer confidence is also going up, joe. >> this question i have about romney, do you following the campaign expect that someday he'll go to georgetown or george washington university or somewhere, and give us a grand look at the world that mitt romney would like to lead america into? is he going to do t
it's a fair question, what do you want to do in the world, what's your united states role. besides this time going to be tougher and all this bs basically. this guy has had no military experience in his family, he just keeps talking about how tough he's going to be. >> the scary thing about this campaign is that we don't have any idea what he wants to do or which policies he's going to support. we saw the stock market go up 200 points today. romney is allegedly running on the economy....
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and in so doing mitt romney unwittingly declared himself unqualified to be president of the united states. this is nuts. if he simply filed normally, taking the deductions he was legally able to take, he would have paid a lower tax rate than he paid. purely for show he deliberately inflated his tax rate on purpose. on mad o owe blog today it was said mr. romney was in the preferred selection of selecting his own tax rate and then working backwards from there. this is a mess for the romney campaign. in these new tax returns we learn mr. romney made $13 million in total income last year. aside from the gee whiz factor of his making $13 million a year, even though he hasn't had an actual paying job since 1999, aside from that there is also the fact that even other average millionaires in this country pay way more in taxes than mitt romney pay. your average tax rate for your run of the mill millionaire now is 25%. but mitt romney is a special kind of millionaire. he doesn't pay 25%. he only pays 14.1%. how do you get 10 points below the rate that even the other millionaires are paying? you ge
and in so doing mitt romney unwittingly declared himself unqualified to be president of the united states. this is nuts. if he simply filed normally, taking the deductions he was legally able to take, he would have paid a lower tax rate than he paid. purely for show he deliberately inflated his tax rate on purpose. on mad o owe blog today it was said mr. romney was in the preferred selection of selecting his own tax rate and then working backwards from there. this is a mess for the romney...
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the state objections board is discussing removing the president of the united states from the november ballot, following complaint from a can san claiming he is is not a u.s. citizen. whose on there? three republicans. they told them i don't think it is a frivolous objection. i do think the factual record could be supplemented. the president's mother was from kansas, cynthia. there they go again. mitt romney bragged he hadn't been asked about his birth certificate. let's catch this slur in action one more time. >> i love being home in this place where ann and i were raised, where both of us were born. ann was born at henry ford hospital, i was born at harper hospital. no one asked to see my birth certificate. they know this is the place we were born and raised. >> that's described after the fact as a joke, a slur at least. we see the joke of birtherism continues in kansas, birthplace of his mother, the president's mother. they're just pushing this thing. cynthia? >> this, chris, is another opportunity for romney to show that he is a leader and he's failed. he could stand up and say thi
the state objections board is discussing removing the president of the united states from the november ballot, following complaint from a can san claiming he is is not a u.s. citizen. whose on there? three republicans. they told them i don't think it is a frivolous objection. i do think the factual record could be supplemented. the president's mother was from kansas, cynthia. there they go again. mitt romney bragged he hadn't been asked about his birth certificate. let's catch this slur in...
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what eichenwald is saying the cell that attacked on the united states was ichd in the united states and that's what was referenced in the pbd. that's why i want that declassified. the administration identified al qaeda as a threat. they didn't understand the malt tud or urgency. they accepted, okay, we have to deal with al qaeda but they did not appreciate how big and urgent threat it was. when you see the president's conversation just then, you had a little bit of that sense. so, that was the issue. you had -- we were arguing in the counterterrorism shop, had you to elevate al qaeda at the expense of other issues on the foreign policy agenda. as michael said, they came into office with the view of terrorism as a prism through state sponsorship and iraq in particular. in the days after 9/11, there were plenty of conversations saying, are you sure iraq wasn't involved in it? it got to the point where we had to write a memo to the president saying, we analyze the information. iraq was not behind this attack. >> well, we're going to be digging through this for the rest of our lives. thank
what eichenwald is saying the cell that attacked on the united states was ichd in the united states and that's what was referenced in the pbd. that's why i want that declassified. the administration identified al qaeda as a threat. they didn't understand the malt tud or urgency. they accepted, okay, we have to deal with al qaeda but they did not appreciate how big and urgent threat it was. when you see the president's conversation just then, you had a little bit of that sense. so, that was the...
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and i believe barack obama is going to get elected president of the united states because he's going to take florida and ohio and that's the death knell for any republican ticket. the bold person he picked was really badly cut into his margin with seniors. i think at the end of the day it's conceivable that obama will actually win the senior vote. >> howard dean and jonathan cohn. thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks for having us. >> thanks. >>> coming up in the rewrite. the things that paul ryan just can't say anymore because he doesn't want to get in trouble with mitt. and we'll look into the most manipulated tax return in history. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make
and i believe barack obama is going to get elected president of the united states because he's going to take florida and ohio and that's the death knell for any republican ticket. the bold person he picked was really badly cut into his margin with seniors. i think at the end of the day it's conceivable that obama will actually win the senior vote. >> howard dean and jonathan cohn. thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks for having us. >> thanks. >>> coming up in...
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nothing terribly unusual in that resume for an attorney general of the united states. nothing unique. there is only one unique thing about eric holder as an attorney general of the united states. eric holder is the first and only african-american attorney general this country has ever had. that is what is unique about eric holder as an attorney general. he's black. and every person at the mitt romney fundraiser knew that, especially the old republican who knew all about the criminals, the convicted criminals that richard nixon had as attorneys general, and still insisted to mitt romney and everyone in that room that eric holder is the most corrupt attorney general that we've had in american history. how did eric holder get that label in that room with those rich republicans? did eric holder get that label by being attorney general while black? you don't want to think that. you want to think better of the people in that room. but there was nothing said in that room, not one word spoken in that room by anyone in that room, that indicates in any way, that those people are
nothing terribly unusual in that resume for an attorney general of the united states. nothing unique. there is only one unique thing about eric holder as an attorney general of the united states. eric holder is the first and only african-american attorney general this country has ever had. that is what is unique about eric holder as an attorney general. he's black. and every person at the mitt romney fundraiser knew that, especially the old republican who knew all about the criminals, the...
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how many people in the congress of the united states do you think are anti-american? you've already suspected barack obama. is he alone? are there others? how many do you suspect of your colleagues as being anti-american? >> what i would say, what i would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. i wish they would. i wish the american media would take a great look at the views of the people in congress and find out, are they pro-america or anti-america? i think people would be -- would love to see an expose like that. >> well, mr. graves, i hate to admit, i shirked on that response but have not conducted a joe mccarthy-style probe in my small role here of the loyalty of the democratic members of congress. what do you make of having an opponent like that? what would you make hay out of that crazy comment? >> krirchris, i'll tell you, it started on your channel and show, she keeps going. she keeps going. she'ses actually coming after me. she likes to tread on fear and separation. that's her whole mantra. and i think it's getting old. >>
how many people in the congress of the united states do you think are anti-american? you've already suspected barack obama. is he alone? are there others? how many do you suspect of your colleagues as being anti-american? >> what i would say, what i would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. i wish they would. i wish the american media would take a great look at the views of the people in congress and find out, are they pro-america or anti-america? i...
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, believe that barack obama was not born in the united states. so this jocular, sarcastic reference to it recently by governor romney is not a joke. that this is something you can keep igniting and keep stirring up. aren't you astounded that a huge percentage of actual voters in the republican party in ohio, a reasonable state, believe the guy wasn't born in this country? >> sure. and same percentage -- same type of percentage believe he's still a muslim, even though it's clear he never was and never has been. look, there are still warring flags out there, and to my friends and colleagues in pennsylvania, don't take anything for granted. the voter i.d. law if it stands is going to hurt us. there's no question about that, chris. i still believe the debates are going to be a factor and governor romney can recover in the debates. lastly, don't believe for a minute that they're not going to spend any money in pennsylvania. the super pac will come in in the last six or seven weeks and try to swamp the state with ads. swamp the state. >> i agree. all t
, believe that barack obama was not born in the united states. so this jocular, sarcastic reference to it recently by governor romney is not a joke. that this is something you can keep igniting and keep stirring up. aren't you astounded that a huge percentage of actual voters in the republican party in ohio, a reasonable state, believe the guy wasn't born in this country? >> sure. and same percentage -- same type of percentage believe he's still a muslim, even though it's clear he never...
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that tony get together where the republican nominee for president of the united states shared his deepest beliefs about the two kinds of people in this country, those who give, like him, and those who take and loaf and vote for obama. joining me now is david corn with mother jones the author of "showdown," out in paper back, and "new york times" jonathan heilemann. we have new tape to show you from that fund-raiser including what he said about the israeli/palestinian conflict. before we get to that, here is that shocking tape from romney talking about the 47% of americans who he says are definitely not voting for -- are definitely voting for obama, not for him. he was answering a question from a donor apparently. the tape was first posted by the great mother jones magazine. let's watch. >> 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. all right. there are 47% who are with him who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, to food, t
that tony get together where the republican nominee for president of the united states shared his deepest beliefs about the two kinds of people in this country, those who give, like him, and those who take and loaf and vote for obama. joining me now is david corn with mother jones the author of "showdown," out in paper back, and "new york times" jonathan heilemann. we have new tape to show you from that fund-raiser including what he said about the israeli/palestinian...
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why is this guy still able to walk before a camera and say, i want to be a united states senator? >> well, first of all, i love the idea that he has a democratic woman in his campaign photo there, because, of course, democrats are the one most enthusiastic about him remaining in the race. because he's the one likeliest to hand the seat right back to them. you know, this is maybe the luckiest man alive, because he had this horrible scandal, looked like he was going down, then the conventions came. and now mitt romney's in trouble. that's the bigger distraction for the republicans than what's happening in missouri. all eyes are off him. the democrats are laying low. they don't want to bring this thing up again, until they hit the 25th, when he has to stay on the ballot. then all kinds of hell is going to be unleashed on him. >> shirra, just to remind everybody, this is the guy who speaks in a way that's so condescending toward women, that even he seems to be suggesting a woman who has to go through the hell of reporting not only going through a rape, which has within in the past a c
why is this guy still able to walk before a camera and say, i want to be a united states senator? >> well, first of all, i love the idea that he has a democratic woman in his campaign photo there, because, of course, democrats are the one most enthusiastic about him remaining in the race. because he's the one likeliest to hand the seat right back to them. you know, this is maybe the luckiest man alive, because he had this horrible scandal, looked like he was going down, then the...
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i'm president of the united states. >> thadz right. there was a sort of put up or shut up moment there, too, that was right around that time when he started talking about foreign policy, and mitt romney going over to england, for instance, and the mention of beijing and how are you going to negotiate with beijing when you can't even visit an olympics without insulting our greatest ally, the united kingdom, there. >> and he established this special relationship. he reestablished england as our best ally. bill clinton was filled with great moments. he 30u7ded republicans with a pointed, substantive speech. >> they want to get back to the same old policies that got us into trouble in the first place. cut taxes for high income americans even more than president bush did. they want to get rid of the pesky financial regulations designed to prevent another crash. as another president once said, there they go again. >> did you like that, mr mr. reagan? >> yes, i liked that a lot. bill clinton does so many things for the obama/biden ticket ther
i'm president of the united states. >> thadz right. there was a sort of put up or shut up moment there, too, that was right around that time when he started talking about foreign policy, and mitt romney going over to england, for instance, and the mention of beijing and how are you going to negotiate with beijing when you can't even visit an olympics without insulting our greatest ally, the united kingdom, there. >> and he established this special relationship. he reestablished...
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as he's finding out, that's not the way the game plays if you want to be leader of the united states. >> there are chinks in his armor, by the way. he didn't count on the knight from arkansas showing up either, bill clinton. >> sir lancelot. >> sir lancelot showed up in the fields and he's not the guy to go jousting with. thank you, to complete the last reference to that metaphor. >>> coming up, more right wing vitriol. newt gingrich said president obama isn't a real president, he said that last night, he says he's a false president. when will this right wing effort stop to stop the legitimacy of this president? we'll talk about the relentless campaign. >>> also, the lead president obama enjoys in the polls may be helping democrats on other job races like senate. tonight we'll talk to one senate candidate whose fortunes are on the rise, wisconsin's tammy baldwin. mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican tick
as he's finding out, that's not the way the game plays if you want to be leader of the united states. >> there are chinks in his armor, by the way. he didn't count on the knight from arkansas showing up either, bill clinton. >> sir lancelot. >> sir lancelot showed up in the fields and he's not the guy to go jousting with. thank you, to complete the last reference to that metaphor. >>> coming up, more right wing vitriol. newt gingrich said president obama isn't a real...
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he thinks the president has been too apologetic on behalf of the united states. although for people have pointed out the president in this case and others was not apologizing for the united states. and he thinks the president is not managing foreign policy well. there is one issue -- at least one factual issue i'm sure caught their eye which was release of the statement by the embassy in cairo. there's a question about how that statement got put out. it's not the best worded statement as possible. in that part of the world, there is a management question, from the state department, that needs to be looked into. how do statements get released on twitter and elsewhere that could cause a political problem? how it went from mitt romney to his staff deciding to do it aggressively, i don't know yet. but i will say that there is -- as i said at the beginning, there is legitimate things to look at here. but for mitt romney in the heat of it without the facts to start to raise issues like this, again, i think is misguided. and i think you see in this campaign on both side
he thinks the president has been too apologetic on behalf of the united states. although for people have pointed out the president in this case and others was not apologizing for the united states. and he thinks the president is not managing foreign policy well. there is one issue -- at least one factual issue i'm sure caught their eye which was release of the statement by the embassy in cairo. there's a question about how that statement got put out. it's not the best worded statement as...
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states capitol. let's get a check on your weather from bill karins. >> morning. a little sad this morning. just been such a beautiful september, we've been spoiled. sunshine and dry. low humidity. and now the rain is returning. and it looks like a lot of the clouds will continue right into the upcoming weekend. people start getting the pull continues and apples and a lot of those fun things will have to dodge raindrops. as far as this morning right now in cleveland, rain moving in fp interstate 80 heading towards youngstown, rain for you. it won't last that long, but definitely bring the umbrella. many other areas of rain through the ohio valley, too. down around areas around cincinnati and lexington, also dealing with wet weather. so as far as the forecast goes, it won't rain all day. just on and off periods of rain. p we've already seen a little down through maryland and delaware, some showers have raced overnight through new england. the next shot of rain will probably be later today through areas
states capitol. let's get a check on your weather from bill karins. >> morning. a little sad this morning. just been such a beautiful september, we've been spoiled. sunshine and dry. low humidity. and now the rain is returning. and it looks like a lot of the clouds will continue right into the upcoming weekend. people start getting the pull continues and apples and a lot of those fun things will have to dodge raindrops. as far as this morning right now in cleveland, rain moving in fp...
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you're the only thing between him and this crackpot getting into the united states senate. i wish you would get a little tougher. look at the things he stands for. he wants to get rid of medicare. and then he wants to abolish the minimum wage. there's a lot of people out there who got their first job with a minimum wage and needed it to get protection. he wants to get rid of student loans. i had student loans all through college. i got a fellowship i was offered in grad school. a lot of us couldn't go to quality schools if we didn't have that kind of help. what is he talking about saying we got to get rid of student loans and calling it stage three cancer? it wasn't that for me. what's he talking about? >> that's just it, it's not what he has said that's the problem, it's what he believes that is the problem. i don't think government is the answer, but, chris, government is not the enemy, and even further yesterday, this was an amazing piece of tape that we'll be happy to share with you for a later date. he actually said that he was against the equal pay act because he thou
you're the only thing between him and this crackpot getting into the united states senate. i wish you would get a little tougher. look at the things he stands for. he wants to get rid of medicare. and then he wants to abolish the minimum wage. there's a lot of people out there who got their first job with a minimum wage and needed it to get protection. he wants to get rid of student loans. i had student loans all through college. i got a fellowship i was offered in grad school. a lot of us...
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iran with a nuclear weapon is unacceptable to the united states, period. netanyahu is trying to put pressure on president obama to draw a red line, and it sounded unfortunately like an ultimatum on his part. if you don't draw a red line, israel will feel no moral inhibitions about attacking iran. that sounds like an ultimatum to me. it's a very dangerous thing to do. but romney is trying to make this a partisan issue because he needs the support of those evangelical voters. >> he doesn't even fully have the support of the defense establishment within israel for his saber rattling. i think because president obama has been so vigorous in his support of israel, i think there's a real desire to say, the only thing left on the table is he and benjamin netanyahu don't get along. >> how wide is the chasm between netanyahu and the people of israel? >> it's a complicated issue. specifically with regards to iran, it's not clear he has the support of his own intelligence advisers for this attack. he's kind of bringing things to the brink even without the defense esta
iran with a nuclear weapon is unacceptable to the united states, period. netanyahu is trying to put pressure on president obama to draw a red line, and it sounded unfortunately like an ultimatum on his part. if you don't draw a red line, israel will feel no moral inhibitions about attacking iran. that sounds like an ultimatum to me. it's a very dangerous thing to do. but romney is trying to make this a partisan issue because he needs the support of those evangelical voters. >> he doesn't...
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and because i know how much he loved being a united states senator and how much he loved the democratic party. >> congressman, quickly, handicap joe's chances today? what's going on? >> we need people to turn out and vote. nothing is taken for granted. joe is working hard, great grassroots campaign and so we're just going to keep pushing as someone who is on the ballot myself for many years, you never take anything for granted. joe's got a terrific organization on the ground, which is where it matters the most. >> i want to talk about that '49 senate race. -- '94 senate race. you would hear these stories your dad was sometimes as worried about your race as he was about mitt romney. talk about some of the stories. here he was in the fierce closest race of his political career and he's worried about your race. >> the paradigm of the mitt romney/t kennedy race of '94 is replaying itself in this campaign. mitt romney was on every side of every issue? '94 and once again he is playing the flip flop game again. so all you really need to do is replay those debates between my dad and mitt romney
and because i know how much he loved being a united states senator and how much he loved the democratic party. >> congressman, quickly, handicap joe's chances today? what's going on? >> we need people to turn out and vote. nothing is taken for granted. joe is working hard, great grassroots campaign and so we're just going to keep pushing as someone who is on the ballot myself for many years, you never take anything for granted. joe's got a terrific organization on the ground, which...
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this should not be happening in the united states of america. as president i directed my administration to step up our efforts and we have. for the first time at hillary's direction our annual trafficking report now includes the united states because we can't ask other nations to do what we are not doing ourselves. [ applause ] we've expanded our interagency task force to include more federal partners including the fbi, the intelligence community is devoting more resources to identifying trafficking networks, we've strengthened protections that foreign born workers know their rights and most of all we're going after the traffickers. new anti-trafficking teams are dismantling their networks. last year we charged a record number of these predators with human trafficking. we're putting them where they belong, behind bars. but -- [ applause ] but with more than 20 million victims of human trafficking around the world, think about that, more than 20 million, we've got a lot more to do. that's why earlier this year i directed my administration to incr
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they are leading to animosity against the united states and there have been killings of innocent bystanders that call into question whether or not america has been applying the law that it helped write in the years after world war ii. >> you know, the thing that i think, especially as democrats wave the flag of or stand under the banner of national security, they forget that executive privilege and executive power are rarely reskinneded. once you've got there it's hard to get it back. so, you know, there will be other presidents and they will have these powers too. that said, it is remarkable how aggressive this administration has been in prosecuting some of these suspects and some folks who are just, you know, in prison, it's worth pointing out that a federal court -- federal court judge last week rejected rules imposed by the obama administration that would have limitsed access to lawyers for prisoners who were not fighting detention trying to ensure they didn't access to counsel in gitmo unless fighting their detention. slapped down by a new york federal court judge. the administration i
they are leading to animosity against the united states and there have been killings of innocent bystanders that call into question whether or not america has been applying the law that it helped write in the years after world war ii. >> you know, the thing that i think, especially as democrats wave the flag of or stand under the banner of national security, they forget that executive privilege and executive power are rarely reskinneded. once you've got there it's hard to get it back. so,...
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he knows he needs the united states. but he is trying at the same time to placate the radical elements in the brotherhood. >> but the core problem is there are angry people out there. and you can't identify them. and the idea that you're going to have a government policy to deal with angry people in a way that will suppress them just is not going to happen. >> let me break in here and come back with the roundtable. more on ♪ ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] you may be an allergy muddler. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts working at hour 1 on the first day you take it. claritin® doesn't start working until hour 3. [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] zyrtec®. love the air. join zyrtec® rewards. save up to $7 on zyrtec® products. >>> back with our roundtable. look at this polling from cnn/orc. better at handling foreign policy, big advantage for president oba
he knows he needs the united states. but he is trying at the same time to placate the radical elements in the brotherhood. >> but the core problem is there are angry people out there. and you can't identify them. and the idea that you're going to have a government policy to deal with angry people in a way that will suppress them just is not going to happen. >> let me break in here and come back with the roundtable. more on ♪ ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] if you have yet to...
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states, not 47%, but a big chunk of it. here is what barry goldwater said which is similar to what romney said, let's get rid of the part of the country we don't like. >> in a saturday evening post article dated august 31st, 1963, barry goldwater said, sometimes i think this country would be better off if we could just saw off the eastern seaboard and let it float out to sea. can a man who makes statements like this be expected to serve all the people justly and fairly? >> well, looks like governor romney would like to saw off 47% of the country. john hilman, don't you like the voice of that old tv commercial? that's authoritative. >> totally awesome. look, i think that, you know, it's hard for us to criticize governor romney. last week we were saying, you know, it's terrible this thing he said, earlier this week, it's terrible this thing he said, you need to be the president of all americans. for him to try to right that ship and apologize, although he didn't come out and own it in quite the way i think would be the most f
states, not 47%, but a big chunk of it. here is what barry goldwater said which is similar to what romney said, let's get rid of the part of the country we don't like. >> in a saturday evening post article dated august 31st, 1963, barry goldwater said, sometimes i think this country would be better off if we could just saw off the eastern seaboard and let it float out to sea. can a man who makes statements like this be expected to serve all the people justly and fairly? >> well,...
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a vote the united states government has simply ignored. the validity of the program is questioned by not only foreign governments by american civilians. american civil liberties union is taking the government to court over targeted killings. oral arguments in the circuit court begin on this case next week. aclu legal expert sees it, the president has created a bureaucratized killing program that will be available to every future president and against every future enemy or purported enemy. right now, the current purported enemy is broader than it was eight years ago. there's been a shift in targets from al qaeda leadership to taliban foot soldiers. under george w. bush, about 25% of targets were al qaeda leaders. 40% were taliban targets. under president obama, those numbers are 8% and 50%. an unnamed pakistani militant told a "new york times" reporter in 2010, i think this quote is kind of amazing, it seems they really want to kill everyone, not just the leaders. even osama bin laden toward the end of his life was increasingly concerned ab
a vote the united states government has simply ignored. the validity of the program is questioned by not only foreign governments by american civilians. american civil liberties union is taking the government to court over targeted killings. oral arguments in the circuit court begin on this case next week. aclu legal expert sees it, the president has created a bureaucratized killing program that will be available to every future president and against every future enemy or purported enemy. right...
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he knows he needs the united states. but he is trying at the same time to placate the radical elements in the brotherhood. >> but the core problem is there are angry people out there. and you can't identify them. and the idea that you're going to have a government policy to deal with angry people in a way that will suppress them just is not going to happen. >> let me break in here and come back with the roundtable. >> let me break in here and come back with the rowe're sitting on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made energy. but we've got to be careful how we get it. design the wells to be safe. thousands of jobs. use the most advanced technology to protect our water. billions in the economy. at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've got to think long term. ♪ >>> back with our roundtable. look at this polling from cnn/orc. better at handling foreign policy, big advantage for presiden
he knows he needs the united states. but he is trying at the same time to placate the radical elements in the brotherhood. >> but the core problem is there are angry people out there. and you can't identify them. and the idea that you're going to have a government policy to deal with angry people in a way that will suppress them just is not going to happen. >> let me break in here and come back with the roundtable. >> let me break in here and come back with the rowe're sitting...
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this is the president of the united states talking. particularly when he talks on auto industry issues in ohio, he has a lot of credibility. people believe in what he's saying, particularly on this issue. >> the protests all over the muslim world called into question what had been a strong point for the president up to this moment, foreign policy. here's what was said a little bit earlier. take a listen to this. >> what we see is the president's policies in the middle east falling apart. the reality is is president got elected to reset our relationship in the middle east. we might as well not have had the reset. >> rudy giuliani with that comment there. the polls give the president is substantial lead on foreign policy. to the point that morris was also making here, do republicans have an opening because of what happened last week? >> republicans have to be very careful on jumping the gun too soon as we saw with the romney campaign on tuesday. that doesn't mean that they can't come out and state what they believe is the best policies g
this is the president of the united states talking. particularly when he talks on auto industry issues in ohio, he has a lot of credibility. people believe in what he's saying, particularly on this issue. >> the protests all over the muslim world called into question what had been a strong point for the president up to this moment, foreign policy. here's what was said a little bit earlier. take a listen to this. >> what we see is the president's policies in the middle east falling...
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states or force the united states to declare a red line that you not put any president in a position where he has no option, no flexibility, and then is required to take action. i think we also have to take into account a retired intelligence official, the head said on "60 minutes" it would be a mistake for the united states to launch an attack at this time, that there was time to take further measures both diplomatic, covert and other types of actions. we have to take care and not allow another country to put an american president in an election year in a difficult position where he has no flexibility and then hands over the keys basically to the decision on war or peace to another leader. this is something no president can afford to do. i think that -- i understand prime minister benjamin netanyahu. i know him. he's a friend. but we have to take care when in somebody else's electoral cycle measure the words more carefully. >> thank you so much, bill cohen. up next, politico's jim vandehei, the romney campaign's blame game. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. in america
states or force the united states to declare a red line that you not put any president in a position where he has no option, no flexibility, and then is required to take action. i think we also have to take into account a retired intelligence official, the head said on "60 minutes" it would be a mistake for the united states to launch an attack at this time, that there was time to take further measures both diplomatic, covert and other types of actions. we have to take care and not...
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he knows he needs the united states. but he is trying at the same time to placate the radical elements in the brotherhood. >> but the core problem is there are angry people out there. and you can't identify them. and the idea that you're going to have a government policy to deal with angry people in a way that will suppress them just is not going to happen. >> let me break in here and come back with the roundtable. more on this. the political impact right in the middle of the campaign. more on that roundtable right after this. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. on every one of our carda reminde
he knows he needs the united states. but he is trying at the same time to placate the radical elements in the brotherhood. >> but the core problem is there are angry people out there. and you can't identify them. and the idea that you're going to have a government policy to deal with angry people in a way that will suppress them just is not going to happen. >> let me break in here and come back with the roundtable. more on this. the political impact right in the middle of the...
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they would like to see the united states relationship destabilized. really the hard work begins now. >> that image. we'll leave this conversation on that image. that of sort of morsi dealing with his own version of sort of right word poll on that side and whomever is the president in the united states, at this moment president obama managing a right word pull on his flank and this question of can we stay with a complex diplomacy allowing us to move forward. thank you for being here today. mitt romney doesn't want to talk about foreign policy. what he does want to talk about? we're going to go ahead and have that conversation next. and later in the show, we're going to talk with my adviser from college, dr. maya angelo. we'll be right back. mom: ready to go to work? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ every mom needs a little helper. that's why i got a subaru. announcer: love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteo
they would like to see the united states relationship destabilized. really the hard work begins now. >> that image. we'll leave this conversation on that image. that of sort of morsi dealing with his own version of sort of right word poll on that side and whomever is the president in the united states, at this moment president obama managing a right word pull on his flank and this question of can we stay with a complex diplomacy allowing us to move forward. thank you for being here today....
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this is nothing anything the united states can do about it. i think hillary clinton's words were right in that the united states is all about religious tolerance, and that's the message the u.s. will try to get across in the days to come. >> our deepest sympathies and it's a tremendous loss for the u.s. diplomatic corp, and so thank you for take the time to talk with us. >> thank you. >>> let me bring back chuck todd. for people just joining us i want to set up the political implications of this and what happened overnight. first there was a statement issued by the u.s. embassy in egypt, which did condemn the aattacks, and the filmmaker. and that led to a statement from romney's campaign. it's disgraceful the obama administration's first response was not to condemn the attacks on the american missions but to another statement by the white house. now, we just got this statement, chuck, from the romney camp. a top romney campaign official tells nbc news it's standing by its statement from last night that criticized the obama administration. help
this is nothing anything the united states can do about it. i think hillary clinton's words were right in that the united states is all about religious tolerance, and that's the message the u.s. will try to get across in the days to come. >> our deepest sympathies and it's a tremendous loss for the u.s. diplomatic corp, and so thank you for take the time to talk with us. >> thank you. >>> let me bring back chuck todd. for people just joining us i want to set up the...
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secretary of state clinton made it clear our mission is to honor these men and their legacy, united as americans. >> they help make the united states the greatest force for peace, progress, and human dignity the world has ever known. if the last few days teach us anything, let it be this, that this work and the men and women who risk their lives to do it are at the heart of what makes america great and good. so we will wipe away our tears, stiffen our spines and face the future undaunted and we will do it together, protecting and helping one another just like sean, tyrone, glen, and chris always did. >> the secretary of state wants us to remember these american heroes, as a country united, facing a future together. its leadership and strength we need at this time in our history. today anti-american protests are spreading across the globe, through africa, the middle east, and asia. it is a tense scene across the region and today we're getting our first look at the scene of the attack inside the u.s. consulate in libya. awful images of where the four americans were killed. without questi
secretary of state clinton made it clear our mission is to honor these men and their legacy, united as americans. >> they help make the united states the greatest force for peace, progress, and human dignity the world has ever known. if the last few days teach us anything, let it be this, that this work and the men and women who risk their lives to do it are at the heart of what makes america great and good. so we will wipe away our tears, stiffen our spines and face the future undaunted...
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. >> at least for 24 to 48 hours until you have a dead united states ambassador come back home. i think that was the unbecoming thing. >> but the egypt mistake is an interesting mistake and i think deserves some scrutiny. >> it was an interesting mistake. i think we can get past it. i think it is very good news that the president spoke with president morsi and let him know, this is not acceptable. this is not how you guys behave. and john, from all the report s i've read, the egyptians said message received. the muslim brotherhood, even, said message received. we're going to pull back. why is this important? this is so important for so many reasons in the middle east. the least of which not being israel and trying to keep -- trying to keep israel safe. >> well, you think about it, you know, the historic u.s. allies in that region, all of those relationships are somewhat more tenuous and trfragile than just few years ago, whether it saudi arabia. you want to have that relationship be strong. i think the president was speaking the truth which is that it's a government in transitio
. >> at least for 24 to 48 hours until you have a dead united states ambassador come back home. i think that was the unbecoming thing. >> but the egypt mistake is an interesting mistake and i think deserves some scrutiny. >> it was an interesting mistake. i think we can get past it. i think it is very good news that the president spoke with president morsi and let him know, this is not acceptable. this is not how you guys behave. and john, from all the report s i've read, the...
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has the arab spring been good for the united states? >> well, yes, it has -- >> i have to stop you there. here is hillary clinton. >> yesterday our post in libya was attacked. heavily armed militants attacked the compound and set fire to the buildings. american and libyan security personnel battled the attackers together. four americans were killed. they included sean smith, a foreign service information management officer, and our ambassador to libya, chris stevens. we are still making next of kin notifications for the other two individuals. this is an attack that should shock the conscience of people of all faiths around the world. we condemn in the strongest terms this senseless act of violence and we send our prayers to the families, friends and colleagues of those we've lost. all over the world every day americans risk our lives in the service of our countries and values. because they believe that the united states must be a force for peace and progress in the world. that these aspirations are worth striving and sacrificing for. al
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and back tonight vice president of the united states. if you talk to him, he will tell you the difference between four years ago and today is like a patient who had cardiac surgery. four years ago the patient is undergoing bypass surgery. now the patient is in the recovery room. one of the things about biden in relation to this issue and other issues in the white house staff is unlike the people in the white house staff, biden manages to live for a for a time eve every -- he goes to home depot. when he goes there, he realizes there's still enormous difficulty in this country. plumbers aren't there in the numbers they used to be, builders aren't at home depot the way they were five or six years ago and he gets a sense of this evenings far better than the white house staff or certainly the president who are in that double. >> so the patience, on the table? >> i would think you would want to go back to the policies we had eight years before that, which is what you'd get. >> unless you had another ticket that was so healthy that they could r
and back tonight vice president of the united states. if you talk to him, he will tell you the difference between four years ago and today is like a patient who had cardiac surgery. four years ago the patient is undergoing bypass surgery. now the patient is in the recovery room. one of the things about biden in relation to this issue and other issues in the white house staff is unlike the people in the white house staff, biden manages to live for a for a time eve every -- he goes to home depot....
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and former comptroller of the united states, david walker and national editor for "vanity fair." jobs launched today. >> talking about the convention first, how are the democrats staging this compared to the republicans? >> they make the republicans in tampa look like amateur hour, it's just the energy, the engagement, michelle obama's speech, i looked through everything conservatives have written and i can't find a negative word which is pretty stunning, it's really the one moment of by partisanship is michelle obama's speech. of course now the question is going to be, how do they go from the personal to the political, that breach. even in michelle obama's speech, you realize that she talked about the soldiers who are coming home, and the man who lost his eyes in afghanistan and he would have given them 100 times over what he had down. to do what exactly. why do we stay in the emotional generaliti generalities. the minute you get down to why are we still in afghanistan. even deval said he's ending the war in afghanistan, but he's not ending it any time soon. >> it was much more
and former comptroller of the united states, david walker and national editor for "vanity fair." jobs launched today. >> talking about the convention first, how are the democrats staging this compared to the republicans? >> they make the republicans in tampa look like amateur hour, it's just the energy, the engagement, michelle obama's speech, i looked through everything conservatives have written and i can't find a negative word which is pretty stunning, it's really the...
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breaks all records in the united states senate. all of these republican filibusters are an effort to stop things from moving forward. mitch mcconnell spelled it out. we're here to make him a one-term president and our job is to say no mp they've done it repeatedly. we always have 53 votes. we have a veterans jobs bill that may get through, but you have to look at it and say there's a real record of obstruction there. look at the farm bill. we passed a transportation bill and farm bill. sent it to the house and they fell flat on the face. they wouldn't call our bill. now we're in a situation with the disaster across the united states, the drought, and the house can't pass a bill. >> the republicans will say the same thing about harry reed. a lot of finger pointing going back and forth. >> how many of those bills were bipartisan coming out of the house? >> right. >> virtually none of them. it's run the flag up. let's throw something at solynd solyndra, let's throw something at -- >> is harry reed bipartisan? >> he has been. he can po
breaks all records in the united states senate. all of these republican filibusters are an effort to stop things from moving forward. mitch mcconnell spelled it out. we're here to make him a one-term president and our job is to say no mp they've done it repeatedly. we always have 53 votes. we have a veterans jobs bill that may get through, but you have to look at it and say there's a real record of obstruction there. look at the farm bill. we passed a transportation bill and farm bill. sent it...
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with those who were at that time attacking the united states. by early this morning, after it became clear that a u.s. ambassador named christopher stevens had been killed in libya, after it became clear that mr. romney's timeline of events in egypt was completely wrong, the republican presidential nominee took to the podium and he did not walk back his initial remarks. he decided to double down on them. >> the statement that came from the administration and the , and the embassy is the administration, the statement that came from the administration was a statement which is akin to apology, and i think was a severe miscalculation. the statements were inappropriate. and in my view, a disgraceful statement on the part of our administration to apologize for american values. >> "a part of the u.s. government was under attack." mitt romney responded while the attack was still going on, to attack that same part of the u.s. government. called the actions of embassy personnel in egypt, "disgrace "disgraceful." just like in previous situations, some of t
with those who were at that time attacking the united states. by early this morning, after it became clear that a u.s. ambassador named christopher stevens had been killed in libya, after it became clear that mr. romney's timeline of events in egypt was completely wrong, the republican presidential nominee took to the podium and he did not walk back his initial remarks. he decided to double down on them. >> the statement that came from the administration and the , and the embassy is the...
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he wants to be president of the united states. but the "wall street journal" -- i thought they said it wonderfully -- which is we conservatives aren't angry at these people, that 47% of the population that are on government benefits. we don't look at them as the problem. they are victims. they are victims of bad economic policies that over the past decade have caused -- have caused this economy to drop. and our job as conservatives is to turn the economy around and make americans less dependent on the federal government. not because we resent those people who have to get help, like scott brown in massachusetts said growing up, his family needed assistance. growing up, my family needed assistance. and that's what kristol gets here, that mitt romney doesn't get. that's what the "wall street journal" editorial page gets that mitt romney doesn't get. and that is that guys like my dad who were unemployed for a year-and-a-half and couldn't find a job, they were voting nixon and they were voting the straight republican ticket and they we
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romney can no longer use the class warfare card against the president of the united states. he's got to, in his speech, if you listen to what he said in florida from that fund-raiser thing, he continually refers to "those people." "those people." that ain't going to fly. "those people." like some alien tribe among us who are just lunging for food stamps? nobody wants to be born poor in the united states of america. >> coming up next, a new film by david letterman's executive producer, rob burnett. he joins us next. >>> as we wrap up our fifth anniversary week, a big look back at the best moments and biggest guests from the past five years. five years. from "morning joe." now, that's what i call a test drive. silverado! the most dependable, longest lasting, full-size pickups on the road. so, what do you think? [ engine revs ] i'll take it. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now during chevy truck month, get 0% apr financing for 60 months or trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $8,000. hurry in before they're all gone! on ever
romney can no longer use the class warfare card against the president of the united states. he's got to, in his speech, if you listen to what he said in florida from that fund-raiser thing, he continually refers to "those people." "those people." that ain't going to fly. "those people." like some alien tribe among us who are just lunging for food stamps? nobody wants to be born poor in the united states of america. >> coming up next, a new film by david...
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the united states drew a clear red line, and iran backed off. now, red lines could be drawn in different parts of iran's nuclear weapons program. to be credible a red line must be drawn first and foremost in one vital part of their program. on iran's efforts to enrich uranium. now, let me explain why. basically any bomb consists of explosive material and a mechanism to ignite it. the simplest example is gunpowder and a fuse. that is you light the fuse, and you set off the gunpowder. in the case of iran's plans to build a nuclear weapon, the gunpowder is enriched uranium. the fuse is a nuclear detonator. for iran amassing enough enriched uranium is far more difficult than producing the nuclear fuse. for a country like iran, it takes many, many years to enrich uranium for a bomb. that requires thousands of centrifuges spinning in tandem in big, very big industrial plants. those iranian plants are visible, and they're still vulnerable. in contrast, iran could produce the nuclear detonator, the fuse, in a lot less time. maybe under a year. maybe onl
the united states drew a clear red line, and iran backed off. now, red lines could be drawn in different parts of iran's nuclear weapons program. to be credible a red line must be drawn first and foremost in one vital part of their program. on iran's efforts to enrich uranium. now, let me explain why. basically any bomb consists of explosive material and a mechanism to ignite it. the simplest example is gunpowder and a fuse. that is you light the fuse, and you set off the gunpowder. in the case...
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we don't do that in the united states. it's not the role of government. and frankly, anyone in an embassy -- and you can see how poorly it worked out, by the way. it didn't make anyone safer when that statement was issued. >> let me ask you something about this, lawrence. i think one of the things that's somewhat confusing to me when i hear some of these arguments is that i don't -- the obama administration continued for -- brought us out of the war in iraq, but did the surges in afghanistan, although it's beginning to draw that war down. they significantly stepped up drone attacks in pakistan and in afghanistan. they did end up killing not just a large slew of al qaeda number twos, but also in the end, osama bin laden. it feels strange to say, or it feels -- it's hard for me to see this as sort of an apologetic approach to the war on terror. >> what a lot of people are referring to is the cairo speech that president obama launched his reset with the islamic world with. that speech was a disaster, and it was wrong. and what you're saying, gaving president
we don't do that in the united states. it's not the role of government. and frankly, anyone in an embassy -- and you can see how poorly it worked out, by the way. it didn't make anyone safer when that statement was issued. >> let me ask you something about this, lawrence. i think one of the things that's somewhat confusing to me when i hear some of these arguments is that i don't -- the obama administration continued for -- brought us out of the war in iraq, but did the surges in...
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. >> the leader defended the united states of america and said there will be consequences if you attack this country. >> weekly standard kol lull nift bill crystal wrote, romney is right to bring home the weakness of the obama administration, exemplified in the disgraceful statement issued yesterday. if romney can prove strong and thoughtful over foreign policy it could be an infliction point in the presidential campaign. richard wolffe, i don't doubt this an inflection point we led into the show with mitt romney talking about making america stronger and again beating this drum of conflict overseas. one point he said there's only one conflict allotted in the president's defense plan as if americans have some sort of blood lust for going into various countries around the world and engaging militarily. do you think the gop can turn this around for mitt romney? >> no. there are a couple of problems, major problems, that mitt romney has underscored with his performance over the last 24 hours. one is that, as a challenger, especially against an incumbent president you need to look presidenti
. >> the leader defended the united states of america and said there will be consequences if you attack this country. >> weekly standard kol lull nift bill crystal wrote, romney is right to bring home the weakness of the obama administration, exemplified in the disgraceful statement issued yesterday. if romney can prove strong and thoughtful over foreign policy it could be an infliction point in the presidential campaign. richard wolffe, i don't doubt this an inflection point we led...
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even the united states can't stop it. we can do it by changing the regime and installing a puppet government there. i don't know if that will work. that's probably the minimum that would be required. nobody wants to talk about that. they want to talk about surgical military strikes. they don't want to talk about the number of people who are going to die. when i'm in iran and have been there, i've talked to people who are anti-regime people who have been in jail and have been tore toured and they say, if there is an attack, we'll fight for iran. it's not as simple as we think. let's bomb the facilities and we'll be okay. i think it's a much larger discussion. >> eli, when you hear -- i know this is obviously a campaign, but when you hear president romney -- would be president romney saying i'm just going to call up and find out what he would like me to say, is that problematic? >> i think he's basically saying that israel is an ally. he would consult as obama consults with other u.s. allies. how's that any different than w
even the united states can't stop it. we can do it by changing the regime and installing a puppet government there. i don't know if that will work. that's probably the minimum that would be required. nobody wants to talk about that. they want to talk about surgical military strikes. they don't want to talk about the number of people who are going to die. when i'm in iran and have been there, i've talked to people who are anti-regime people who have been in jail and have been tore toured and...